Notes From Norman - Beliefs

*Beliefs*

Norman P. Grubb


No, the curious thing is that it is here precisely we differ from the
holiness brethren. I will send you a reply I've just written to Ted
Hegre, who kindly wrote, because it hits the very spot. If we humans
have a nature spoiled by sin, then sanctified by a second work of Grace,
then how do we sin again without becoming unsanctified? That is why they
are accused of "sinless perfection". But we are saying that we in our
humanity can respond, because it was not a change in us which took
place, but in the Indwelling one in us (Rom.8.9 in place of 7.17). Then
I grant you the way of saying "as us" does raise questions such as you
say, implying "obliteration". But we might say Jesus saying "Ye are the
light of the world" is about the same, when we are in reality only lamps
manifesting the light. And such phrases as "ye bear fruit", when it is
the Vines fruit manifested in us the branches etc. And our main point
is, as you know it well enough among our Weccers, and far more so among
millions of believers, they stumble along in maintaining an abiding
relationship as two related to each other, and it is only those in whom
there has been the revelation of a fixed inner union consciousness, who
freely act as spontaneous Christ-expressors - the "abiding" being merely
a recognition of an experienced fact. Paul again says it, "I live, yet
not I, but Christ liveth in me". He admittedly kind of contradicts
himself when he adds "liveth in me" when he had just said "yet not I":
but that is just the almost impossibility of expressing a paradox; and
we in "union life" move more strongly over to the emphasis that we are
He in our form, He as us; for then we are equally spontaneous in us
"having the mind of Christ", and we willing and doing because it is He
willing and doing in us. I know it is a fine point, and open to
question; but we see the whole Bible full of men, and finally Jesus
Himself when The Dove entered Him, speaking and acting as speaking the
words of God (Matt.10.20), and doing the deeds of God (John 5:17,19).
And as for saying "we spontaneously operate Him", again it may be a
clumsy effort for saying that "we have the faith of God" (mark 11:22);
and what else is it if we say to a mountain "Be thou removed" etc. We
are operating as God, He at our disposal!

From Knight of Faith, Vol.I

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